The Battle Between Your Old Self and New Self Q&A #710

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Meeting summary

This was a Q&A session where Chaim addressed questions about ego, spiritual growth, and religious practice. The main discussion centered on understanding that spiritual growth often feels like loss before gain, with normal conflicts between old and new identities. Chaim explained that the tension and inconsistency people experience during spiritual development is not a flaw but part of the design, emphasizing that character development involves working through doubts and inconsistencies. He addressed questions about honoring parents, particularly regarding proper respect for elderly family members, and discussed the importance of nullifying one’s will to God’s will according to Torah. The session also covered topics like miracles, scientific explanations of creation, and the process of conversion, with Chaim noting that many challenging questions asked by others appear to be for debate rather than genuine spiritual inquiry.

Ego and Personal Transformation

Chaim discussed the concept of ego and its role in personal growth, particularly in the context of conversion or personal transformation. He explained that while building self-esteem is important, inconsistency can be a significant challenge for people undergoing change. Chaim addressed how inner conflict arises between a person’s old identity and emerging new identity, noting that this conflict can be influenced by doubts, fear of failure, and external pressures from others.

Spiritual Growth Challenges Discussion

Chaim discussed the normal challenges and tensions experienced during spiritual growth, explaining that difficulty and resistance are expected rather than indicating the wrong path. He emphasized that conflicting drives between comfort and truth are part of the design, and that feeling overwhelmed or guilty during spiritual development is common and not a flaw. Chaim also addressed the potential conflict between following spiritual pursuits and honoring parents, noting that toxic family situations may require careful handling.

Jewish Personal Growth and Respect

Chaim discussed the importance of self-improvement and personal growth in Judaism, emphasizing that while it’s not ego, it’s about recognizing one’s role in the world. He explained that people who return to Judaism as secular Jews often seek acceptance and recognition for their religious choices. Chaim also addressed the issue of honoring parents and grandparents, sharing an example of disrespectful behavior toward an elderly person and emphasizing that even joking remarks about someone’s age or mobility violate Torah guidelines for honoring elders.

Character Development vs Ego Growth

Chaim discussed the difference between working on personal character development and ego, explaining that while both involve self-improvement, character development focuses on addressing personal issues and becoming better, while ego involves looking down on others without reason. He shared a story about Israel Solend, the founder of the Bnei Baruch movement, who learned that effective change must start with oneself before attempting to influence others or larger communities. Chaim emphasized that everyone is a work in progress facing various challenges, and the work of self-improvement is ongoing and sometimes difficult.

Balancing Strengths and Improvement

Chaim discussed the importance of working on both strengths and weaknesses in self-improvement, using the example of a basketball player who needs to develop their weaker hand despite being skilled with their stronger hand. He explained that even skills we are good at require maintenance to prevent them from atrophying, drawing on the concept from Ramchal’s Mesils of Shorin about working on things we are already proficient in. Chaim emphasized that when people focus on one improvement area for an extended period, they often become overwhelmed by thinking about multiple issues simultaneously, making it difficult to make progress.

Maintaining Skills and Mental Purity

Chaim discussed the importance of maintaining skills and character traits through consistent practice to avoid atrophy, even for abilities one is naturally good at. He emphasized how difficult it is to achieve purity of thought, noting that unwanted thoughts can persist despite efforts to suppress them. Chaim explained how people often avoid being alone with their thoughts by using devices, which can lead to overthinking, depression, and potentially irrational decisions that could destroy one’s life.

Personal Growth and Spiritual Development

Chaim discussed the challenges of personal growth and change, emphasizing that self-improvement is difficult but necessary. He explained the concept of “bittul” (nullification), which means doing actions for God’s sake rather than for personal gain. Chaim stressed the importance of following God’s blueprint and doing mitzvahs to the best of one’s ability while attaching oneself to God.

Religious Practice and Parenting Challenges

Chaim discussed the challenges of fulfilling religious obligations and maintaining balance in spiritual practice, using a parable about finding precious gems on a beach to illustrate how people often become discouraged by the difficulty of the task. He addressed parenting challenges, emphasizing the importance of validating children’s feelings even when parents disagree with them, and discussed the complex dynamics around apologizing for past mistakes and their impact on children’s perceptions. The conversation concluded with a question about praying for clear miracles from Hashem.

Recognizing Hidden Miracles

Chaim discussed the concept of relying on omens and signs, explaining that while people can pray for signs, they should focus on becoming vessels to recognize miracles rather than relying on omens 100%. He cited examples from Jewish history and philosophy, including the Six-Day War and the Book of Esther, to illustrate how miracles can be hidden within natural events and may not be recognized by everyone. Chaim emphasized that people living in a world of “hiddenness within hiddenness” may not see or acknowledge miracles, regardless of the evidence presented.

Religious Belief and Life Changes

Chaim discussed how military experiences can lead some people to seek religious protection, though he noted that many who acknowledge miracles don’t necessarily change their lives significantly. He shared the example of Rabbi Orzoa, who was challenged to a religious debate but ended up converting to Orthodox Judaism after losing the argument, demonstrating integrity by following through with the religious commitment despite being proven wrong. Chaim observed that most people, even when confronted with evidence, resist changing their beliefs due to cognitive dissonance rather than intellectual honesty.

Noahide Laws and Conversion Requirements

Chaim discussed the importance of intellectual honesty and depth in understanding complex topics like Judaism and science, criticizing oversimplification. He explained the requirements for non-Jews to accept Noahide laws, clarifying that there is no obligation for a Noahide to go before a rabbinical court, unlike a Ger Toshav. Chaim also addressed the question of whether converts can attend yeshivah, confirming that some institutions may accept students before conversion, but typically only after conversion.

Jewish School Conversion Policies

Chaim discussed the varying acceptance policies of Jewish schools regarding non-Jewish students before conversion, clarifying that while some schools will accept them, most do not. He shared a personal story about individuals who experienced difficulties with conversion and recognition by the Chief Rabbinate, emphasizing the challenges faced by converts in the country. Chaim also addressed questions about the concept of a 13th tribe, explaining that only Kohens and Levites know their tribal origins, and that the idea of a 13th tribe remains unclear and subject to debate.

Science and Religion Discussion Approaches

Chaim discussed approaches to addressing questions about science and religion, particularly regarding the age of the universe and carbon dating. He noted that while there are scientific answers to these questions, many people asking them are not genuinely interested in the answers but rather use them as challenges to make others “fidget” or appear inconsistent. Chaim observed that during a recent visit to the United States, he received very few substantive questions about religious or scientific topics, with most conversations focusing on political issues or being superficial in nature.

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